From a trusted source: working title and cover of Lloyd’s new book
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
he is once again a family man. Nice try, but I am not buying it.
But on whose word do we have it on that they are separated and divorcing? Something Dijana told Kim when they were quarreling about Thailand back in January and Lloyd’s explanation he gave last month? An explanation forced from him when he was caught trying to date women in London and Zagreb?Something else is at play here. There is a hold he has on her and he knows how to manipulate. Now he goes on holiday with Dijana and the girls (Yes, she was there) round the time of their wedding anniversary and comes out wearing his wedding ring?
I don’t think that’s a coincidence or that he’s necessarily playing a role.
There’s a twisted and sick co-dependency going on and she seems to be easy pickings for him when he decides the dating life isn’t bearing any fruit.
Why is anyone’s guess. We know he needs help. It’s quite possible she needs help to break this co-dependency cycle.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
He’s wearing his wedding ring on that pic.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he did. I don't worry about the plight of people who abuse and bully others.
A friend of mine got involved in his circle after he bolted this forum. I warned her of the bullying nature of the man if you dare disagree but it was always “he does so much good! Those videos are excellent!”.
It didn’t take too long for him to publicly shame and humiliate her when she critically questioned him over the COC debacle. What was left of her his zombie army finished off.
She was an absolute wreck and we spoke into the wee hours of the morning trying to sort all this out. The main issue was that she couldn’t believe the sheer viciousness of someone who ostensibly was there to provide support and encouragement for exJWs. When it was explained that it was a business to him and the COC mess threatened that, it started making sense.
I wouldn’t say she was close to suicide but she had a history of self harming and was very vulnerable.
I don’t want anyone to commit suicide and Lloyd if you are reading (which you of course are), don’t jump off that bridge. There is hope. Maybe one of those Instagram models will reply with a kissy emoji and for one evening you’ll feel like a million euros. Or perhaps another trip to Thailand is in the works. McDonald’s might have a 2 for the price of 1 Big Mac special running for a full week in Zagreb.
But I am with Simon. If this creep offs himself it’s the culmination of a long history of bad behaviour that he cultivated, made excuses for and attacked critics of mercilessly. I’m not bending myself out of shape to prevent this. We’ve told him he needs help. What else is there to say?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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And you shouldn’t judge others for having their own limits. Otherwise, you’re no better than Lloyd
You certainly can advocate for his mental health here.
And I’m here to tell you it’s the stinkiest pile of bullshit imaginable if you fall for his “I’m close to suicide” schtick.
That was about as genuine as his FB post where he stated he was “seriously considering leaving ex JW activism” if the ‘bullying’ didn’t subside. Well we stepped it up to call out his BS and here he is months later writing two books.
Suicide? Stop believing what a known liar says.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
It happened this way:
Lloyd started crowdfunding for a “much needed” Spanish translation of TRA. He wanted to do other languages but Spanish is the second most spoken language by JWs worldwide. He had Croatian (Dijana) and Romanian (Arthur Weber, his partner in crime who bootlegged COC with him) translations ready but for obvious reasons those aren’t languages you are making a tonne of money off of nor is there a huge need for. In fact Croatian and Romanian are probably two languages he could have skipped over and no one would have noticed.
He ended up with a few thousand dollars worth of donations for the Spanish translation.
Great! He had the money. Let’s get this moving, right?
No, he just inexplicably pocketed the money, took his family on holid— er “book tour” and then asked for qualified volunteers to do it for free. He specifically asked for translators with experience in English to Spanish. He wanted a full CV sent in with personal information and references he could check (Again with the personal information he solicits so he can retaliate if he feels you have slighted him). Keep that in mind because it does come up later.
He had a few volunteers, many in Mexico. Note that Spanish as spoken in Spain is different from that which is spoken in Mexico and Latin America. As someone who was a “Director” of his own Translation company, Lloyd should have known the folly of what was to follow. Yes, he was afraid of bootleggers so he refused to hand out digital copies of the book and only sent out individual chapters to volunteer translators all over the world. When a few asked for the full copy, he rudely cut them off and replied they could purchase a copy if they liked.
One such volunteer relayed information that he had went ahead and translated a chapter that was not assigned to him and made the mistake of telling Lloyd when asked that it was from a PDF. As PDF means a bootlegged digital copy, Lloyd doxxed him. All I remember from what I was told was he was in Hermosillo Mexico. But it was a real person who was doing this for free after Lloyd had pocketed the money funded for this purpose.
So if you want to know what he has in mind in taunting Kim to provide her legal credentials to him, this is simply how he operates. He asked for references for volunteer translators. He wanted Kim’s credentials. Why? Lloyd Evans is a piece of shit scumbag motherfucker who will harass you, your friends and colleagues if you cross him.
So does anyone want to return to the subject of whether or not we should lay off him due to concerns of him committing suicide?
That fucking prick can pound sand and masturbate into a pillow and you can tell him I said that. Want my credentials or references? Here they are.
Fuck You.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
I foresee a go-fund me in the ex-jw's future...
Horrible idea. One - He's flooding the market with both a second edition of TRA and a new book. Two - He's going to write about the scandal still with the mindset he was right about this all along. Three - It's too soon for this as the bleeding has not yet stopped. He needs to stablise first. Four - What is the new book going to even be about? Memoir? Done that. How to escape? Same. Doctrinal analysis - did that in TRA. I have a feeling he's writing about the scandal and how he was defamed and tie it in with how exJWs are so judgmental and as messed up as he is. Or possibly a foray into the myriad of books already out there about atheism.
And I can probably think of 5 other reasons why this is dumb. He can try the gofundme - it just further exposes him as the grifter all his critics say he is and he's not getting anything near what he got in the past because of dwindling support plus the notion he doesn't need the money to get this moving. If he can hire lawyers, he has enough to self-publish.
The huge impetus behind TRA was the need to fund this to get it out. $2000 USD funded tops - and that's being generous.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
june 1 -504 then june 3 511? COME ON! then it was going down again , then up ?
The reasonable explanation for that are lapsed Patrons who did not intend to drop support and once informed they are no longer a Patron by email, they re-subscribe. There are probably two options with becoming a Patron - auto-renew and ones that have to opt in at the end of the month. Even before the scandal broke, he got small downward spikes at the end of the month but nothing near to what he's getting ever since - typically 20-30 followers gone.
What is hurting him now is what was mentioned earlier - lack of interesting content because he no longer has leaks and collaborators that will join him other than a fan who wants him to interview them. The channel is stagnant right now with very little energy. Also you need to factor in the fact he is quite open about suing people, how much it is costing him to do so, and his excessive holiday schedule. Lloyd had a reputation amongst those who knew no better that he was a "paycheck to paycheck" type of guy and the YouTube demonitisations were hurting him greatly. Now even supporters can see he's not hurting for money which makes dropping patronage much easier. His wholesome family man image also helped as many believed it was a great thing that his wife and daughters were supported as well. Now that image is gone and it's clear that funds are going to a single man who tries to date Instagram models, goes on dating holidays to London during the Jubilee and practically rubs it in everyone's face that he's spending his money how he pleases.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
nothing has happened since he made that announcement. The court records online have not changed, and none of us have heard anything
When he gets back from holiday and seeing what his end of month drop in Patrons looks like, look for a renewed effort to push his legal team toward a conclusion.
Always count on him to be triggered by the Patron losses, all of which he blames squarely on Kim and her associates.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
How did I miss that? He dropped the suit? The Croatian suit against seven people
Not dropped as in cancelled, dropped as in revealed.